Who gives a rats ass of your piece of shit arguments of ifs and buts...? If the ukrainins want to show Russians the finger and hate them it is their problem, as long as they stay within their borders, and they are doing just that. The Russians on the contrary are playing the master of the region role and feel they can dictate why Ukraine can and what Ukraine can not do. Regardless of the details, one thing is for sure: Ukraine is under attack from outside and this is a fact. It has a right to self defense and the Russian apologists can go and acre themselves with their keyboards.